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Dutch Passion's The Ultimate

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Re: Dutch Passion's The Ultimate

Postby Autoberry » Tue Apr 08, 2014 12:10 pm

according to henk van dalen tee...........for normal development and to be able to change air quality regularly enough without dropping temps, you nedd a min of 1 meter square per plant if medium sized like a fem reg. 1 max 2 plants in a 1.5m square tent is max. other wise "yield" will be comparative to 4 in same space. Ergonomic impact of proximity. The plants know they are close up etc.......respiration product spewing onto each other is blamed. Ive tried 8 and 6 and 4 and even 15 in a 1.5 yield only varied by 25% top and toe.

So would take a 4m by 3m room with a 40% negative air pressure induction over a tent any day. if you want to run an auto or a mother while doing fem regs get a tent !! the air volume in a small room is triple or more. so 8 ina room 4 by 3m is where you are aiming..........for ease of environmental control and lower bud rot risk due to better air volume and circulation.........you only need to change room air volume every hour and not every 10 mins due to small space in a small tent etc, air con free standing units can be used to much greater effect in 10 cubic meters, u may need one to keep temps down, down there !! a tent will condensate on the outside, a room will breath homogenous slow thermal exchange etc.......and wont condensate on the outside !!............room win over tent ??.....air con is 1.5kw hr though !!.........and air is 38c ?? 12 above required ??...............rh at 38c 85% ??............its a full dehumidify air con set required as in USA !!........AB......

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Re: Dutch Passion's The Ultimate

Postby ledbud » Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:38 pm

teetee wrote:Filling out now!
How do you like working with a tent... compared to the usual room set up?
Which do you prefer... do you get more issues with climate management in a tent and do they leak smell etc?
I like the idea of tents, seen some nice scrogs done in them.....

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(this is pineapple chunk 4 plants..... what I was trying to grow, dammit!)

Oh man I reallly wanna grow some buds looking at all this!
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you will be growing soon bro.
you got the bug now.
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Re: Dutch Passion's The Ultimate

Postby ledbud » Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:42 pm

Autoberry wrote:according to henk van dalen tee...........for normal development and to be able to change air quality regularly enough without dropping temps, you nedd a min of 1 meter square per plant if medium sized like a fem reg. 1 max 2 plants in a 1.5m square tent is max. other wise "yield" will be comparative to 4 in same space. Ergonomic impact of proximity. The plants know they are close up etc.......respiration product spewing onto each other is blamed. Ive tried 8 and 6 and 4 and even 15 in a 1.5 yield only varied by 25% top and toe.

So would take a 4m by 3m room with a 40% negative air pressure induction over a tent any day. if you want to run an auto or a mother while doing fem regs get a tent !! the air volume in a small room is triple or more. so 8 ina room 4 by 3m is where you are aiming..........for ease of environmental control and lower bud rot risk due to better air volume and circulation.........you only need to change room air volume every hour and not every 10 mins due to small space in a small tent etc, air con free standing units can be used to much greater effect in 10 cubic meters, u may need one to keep temps down, down there !! a tent will condensate on the outside, a room will breath homogenous slow thermal exchange etc.......and wont condensate on the outside !!............room win over tent ??.....air con is 1.5kw hr though !!.........and air is 38c ?? 12 above required ??...............rh at 38c 85% ??............its a full dehumidify air con set required as in USA !!........AB......



AB bro what you growing now, post some photo.
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Re: Dutch Passion's The Ultimate

Postby ledbud » Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:15 pm

day 29
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Re: Dutch Passion's The Ultimate

Postby LEDDWCRigger » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:17 pm

Oooh, this is looking great!

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Re: Dutch Passion's The Ultimate

Postby ledbud » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:39 pm

thanks LEDDWCRigger bro.
the buds a bit small I think, first time growing this plant.
still got 5 weeks to go, let see how they bud up.
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Re: Dutch Passion's The Ultimate

Postby Autoberry » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:18 pm

Lb,..........it's all in the last 20-28 days, the Ulti packs it on late, can tell you from mine bro............half of your Ec needs to be pk13/14 or a 3rd if 15/21pk...........make sure your calcium is up as well otherwise pk wont convert to the max LB...............ph down with "Phosphoric acid" yea, not nitric etc............look like might been a bit short of N during veg window........but will still pack it on Lb...........you may need canes to support those long bows as weight goes on etc..........see how you go, 2 weeks from now.

Take one plant, and flush into a 20ltr container with ph'ed same temp water, and measure Ec, if more than 5-8 times the Ec you are running, just feed Ph,ed water for 4-7 days, the plant will bring soil TDS down & Ph with it. Ph above 7-7.5 negates Pk uptake, so ensure this is in line now before you push in to much Pk. Flush em right down ready for Pk cal/mag push inc blended in mono canna calcium Pk vector, res temp fresh made, below 22c ?? essential for o2 volume.. Soil temp below 24c ??................AB

They will go a few extra day Lb..........this is 119 days 78Fwr............and would have still taken more before the 10 day flush !!............nice though, allround Ultimate >>

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Re: Dutch Passion's The Ultimate

Postby ledbud » Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:07 am

thanks AB mate, good info
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Re: Dutch Passion's The Ultimate

Postby ledbud » Fri Apr 18, 2014 4:12 pm

day 37
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Re: Dutch Passion's The Ultimate

Postby ledbud » Sat Apr 19, 2014 6:13 pm

buds getting fat and loads.
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